Tag Archives: Trades

Trade Update: Hunter Pence

30 Jul

Update: 12:16 PM EST Now that Victorino has moved to the Dodgers the Hunter Pence talks are heating up according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.  Jon Heyman of CBSSports says that the Giants are closing in on Pence. 

There have been some rumblings of talks between the Giants and the Phillies about Hunter Pence, and Jerry Crasnick of ESPN says that Giants are only discussing one Phillies outfielder, and it’s Pence. They apparently are not in on Victorino.  That’s as of 10:45 EST.

I guess it’s kinda surprising, but some teams just don’t like rentals.

Being able to have control over Pence in 2013 is probably important to the Giants, however Pence will likely get somewhere north of $14MM after he goes to arbitration. That might make things difficult for them since they don’t know what they’re going to do with Tim Lincecum and they have a bunch of arbitration eligible players like Buster Posey, and Brian Wilson.  Not to mention that they might want to try and lock up Melky Cabrera, who is having another amazing season.

This might be one to watch.

The Giants have a collection of interesting prospects for the Phillies to consider, and unlike the Blanton talks, with Pence the Phillies are looking for a SERIOUS haul.  Centerfileder Gary Brown, Shortstop Joe Panik, and catcher Hector Sanchez are all ones to think about.

Gary Brown is probably the centerpiece of this deal since the Phillies have no idea what’s going on with prospect Tyson Gillies, and all his off the field troubles.

Philliesnation.com has similar thoughts.

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Phillies Preparing to Sell Hard

29 Jul

Victorino slides in safe, but is likely out as a member of the Phillies.

The Phillies needing a great weekend series against the Braves to have any hope of keeping their team together….

It was far from great.

After being swept in Atlanta, the Phillies will likely prepare to dismantle a their team before the 4Pm deadline on Tuesday.

At the top of that list is Shane Victorino.  Vic has drawn interest from Giants, Pirates, Reds and Dodgers, who all need more speed at the top of their lineup.  If Shane has indeed played his last game as a Phillie, he had a good one, crushing his 88th homer as a Phillie and had two other hits and two runs scored.  Shane was instrumental in the successes of the Phillies from 2007-2012, but there just isn’t room for a salary of his kind going into the future.

Multiple teams have inquired about Juan Pierre, and both the Orioles and Cardinals are potential destinations for Joe Blanton according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. He also says that Hunter Pence could be moved if GM Ruben Amaro Jr. is blown away by an offer, and speculates that Ty Wigginton would fit on several teams looking for bench help.

I still think yesterday’s pitching performance bodes well for Joe Blanton.  As you probably remember the Phillies acquired Joe from the A’s in 2008 and he was instrumental in their championship run.  He would certainly help solidify a contenders starting rotation, and in his last three starts has proven to be as durable and reliable as ever.  Joe allowed just four hits and two runs over seven innings. He walked just one and struck out seven.

The Phillies are very likely to keep Cliff Lee for now, although he could be shopped this offseason in an attempt to fill multiple holes, and lower the Phillies overall salary.  With a bit of uncertinty surrounding Roy Halladay, and his less then “Halladay Like” performances, Lee might just be worth holding onto through 2013.

To that extent, Charlie Manual might even consider shutting Roy Halladay down for the remainder of 2012 if things don’t change.

In no way are any of the moves the Phillies are making about dumping salary.  Money is not the issue, prospects and 2013 are. The Phillies need to get better, and it starts in the bullpen.

Ruben Amaro Jr. has really dazzled us the last few years with the players he has acquired, now we’ll see what he can do when he’s got players to sell.

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Phillies Trade Buzz 7/23

23 Jul

There was a little bit of chatter last night in the Twitter world surrounding the Phillies and Rays center fielder B.J. Upton.  

Upton was pulled from the Rays’ game last night and the Rays top prospect Desmond Jennings was a late scratch from his game in the minors. These events caused a bit of a frenzy on Twitter, but Joe Madden and the Rays that Jennings had played well enough to earn his place with the club.

As rumors usually do on Twitter, it exploded.  I’m not really sure how the Phillies got into the mix, but Upton could be a fit for the Phillies, so it makes sense.  The Phillies are looking for an outfielder with tools similar to what Upton has.

The Phillies had previously inquired about Upton, but had never been considered serious about him.  The Braves and Nationals however are. B.J. will likely have a price tag similar to that of Carlos Beltran, and Hunter Pence.

Speaking of Carlos Beltran… It’s rumored that the Mets are asking that Domonic Brown be included with any package that the Phillies put together for Beltran.  I don’t see that happening.

Phillies Trade Buzz 7/21

22 Jul

There has been a little buzz around Hunter Pence that involves the Phillies, and it leads me to believe that the Phillies don’t have much of a chance to acquire him.

Rumor has it right now that the Astros asking price is so high that he’ll probably end up staying put in Houston.  It’s believed that the Astros are interested in both Vance Worley and Domonic Brown.  To me that’s just crazy talk.  Brown was considered untouchable in both the Halladay and Lee trades, and even though we’ve gotten to see a little more from him I believe that the Phillies are not ready to give up on him just yet.  Personally I’m not ready to part with Worley since it’s unknown how soon Roy Oswalt will return to the rotation, and I haven’t a clue who could be a starter if he doesn’t come back, or God forbid something should happen to one of the healthy aces.

If the playoffs were tomorrow, I’d say go for it, but there is almost 2 1/2 months left in the season and the Braves are just 4 games back from the Phillies.  That’s not that big of a gap.  The Astros are not looking for a package of unproven prospects.  I don’t think a combination of Singleton, Cosart, and you pick the others, would do it.  They are going to want someone that they can throw out on the field right now.  I was at the Lakewood BlueClaws game on Thursday to watch Phillies first round pick Jesse Biddle, and I encountered a scout from the Houston Astros that was there to watch him pitch, so I can’t say with certainty that they wouldn’t take accept a collection of prospects, but I still doubt it .

I’m interested in a “Rental” player if we don’t have to give up very much, but I don’t necessarily think that’s the long term answer.  The Phillies desperately need some protection for Ryan Howard.

The teams linked to Pence right now are the Phillies, Pirates, Red Sox, and now the Braves.

Phils Have Work Cut Out for Them in Trade Talks

18 Jul

Trade talks are heating up around MLB, and you’re going to hear a lot of stuff out there about what the Phillies may, or may not do.  Even from me.

Charlie Manuel told Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com that he’d like to see the Phillies add a reliever and a bat this month. The skipper makes it clear that he’s looking for an upgrade, not just a lateral move. If we’re going to get somebody, I want somebody good that will help us, Manuel said. I don’t want someone we’ve already got.”

I’m trying not to read into this too much, but one thing that I think needs to be said is that no matter who the Phillies can trade for, reliever or bat, it’s not going to make a difference if the guys that we have in the lineup don’t do what they are supposed to do.

If Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, and Jimmy Rollins can’t find a way to get runs on the board then it won’t matter.

In my weekly column for PhilaPhans.com this week I said that I keep hearing all this “We don’t need to worry, we have the best record in baseball” stuff, but look where that got us last year.  I’d like our team to get past that.  The Phillies are batting .254 against righties and .234 against lefties.  It’s something that needs to be addressed if we want to make a deep run into the playoffs.

A trade could help this team for sure, but there are 25 other guys on this roster already that could make a big difference, too.

Tonight’s game in Chicago show some of the holes.  The back end of the bullpen is still pretty solid, but the middle relief is just plain bad.  I’m done with David Herndon and Andrew Carpenter. Some of this stress is coming because our long man, Kyle Kendrick, is starting because Roy Oswalt is on the disabled list.  I might just be leaning towards an arm over a bat.

Potential Trade Targets

17 Jul

Besides Heath Bell, and Mike Adams who I discussed earlier today, I just wanted to touch on a few other players that the Phillies have been linked to.

Ryan Ludwick – Ludwick will be interesting to watch.  He is a righty which the Phillies like, but his splits  Sites have already been packaging him in trades with Bell, and Adams, but that might be over the Phillies heads.  He could be had on his own for a prospect at a high level.  Someone Major League ready. His splits against right handers are not that great (.224) this season compared to lefties (.274).  I’m not sure I would go that hard after a guy just cause he’s a righty if he can’t hit above .240.

Josh Willingham -All signs seem to be pointing to Willingham being traded.  The Braves have shown interest, and so have the Pirates and Phillies.  Josh isn’t an everyday player so he could be had for cheaply. Bob Brookover of the Inquirer seems to think Willingham could be had for a low to mid-level prospect.

Michael Cuddyer - It looks like for the time being that Michael Cuddyer is not going to be traded.  The Twins are now six games out and have not given up hope that they can make a come back after struggling a lot of the first half.  Cuddyer is a clubhouse leader for the Twins, and they insist that they would like to try to resign him at the end of the 2011 season.  It is possible that if they start to tank that things could change but for now it appears that Cuddyer is staying put in Minnesota.

Matt Kemp - Sure the Dodgers are broke, but there is no chance he is going to be dealt. People have asked me about him, and that is the only reason I even put his name on this list.

Hunter Pence - According to ESPN’s Buster Olney, Hunter Pence going to remain an Astro.  Hunter will likely stay in Houston unless the Astros are “overwhelmed,” according to Olney.  The Phillies have the prospects to do so, but Pence is a commodity, and the Phillies would have to compete with some other clubs that have interest.  It sounds to me like the price on Pence might be a little too high for the Phillies, but you never know. Pence is an everyday right fielder which we don’t exactly have, but Domonic Brown is the future in right, and I can’t see them putting him in left, but I have been wrong before.  He’s not a free agent until the 2014 season so there would be some work to be done.

Carlos Beltran - The Mets want cash, not players in return for Carlos.  That pretty much counts the Phillies out.  He’s a pretty highly sought after player right now that the Phillies won’t be able to touch.

Trades and Waivers Explained

3 Aug

_aug2.jpgA lot of these trade terms can be confusing.  With a little help from Wikipedia.com and Baseball-reference.com I’ve tired to put together a simplified look into how all this stuff works.  Now that July 31st has passed can the Phillies still make a trade?  Yes!  Is it likely? Who knows?!?  I know it confuses the heck out of me sometimes.  So let’s give it a try, and if you still don’t get it, who the hell cares anyway.

  • Simple Trades

Teams may trade only players currently under contract, except those
players who have been drafted in the last year. From the end of the
previous World Series through July, trades between two
or more major league teams may freely occur at any time, hence the July 31st trade deadline. In August,
trades may only be made after all players in the trade clear waivers (we’ll get to waivers) or
are not on 40-man rosters. Players acquired after August 31 are
ineligible for the postseason roster unless they replace an injured
player.

  • Designated for Assignment

A player who is designated for assignment is immediately removed from
the 40-man roster. This gives the team time to decide what to do with
the player while freeing up a roster spot for another transaction, if
needed. Once a player is designated for assignment, the team has ten
days to do one of the following things: the player can be traded, the
player can be released, or the player can be put on waivers and,
provided he clears, outrighted to the minors. A player who is
outrighted to the minors is removed from the 40-man roster but is still
paid according to the terms of his guaranteed contract. A player can
only be outrighted once in his career without his consent.

  • Waivers

Any player under contract may be placed on waivers at any
time. If a player is waived, any team may claim him. If more than one
team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in
the player’s league gets preference. If no team in the player’s league
claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other
league gets preference. In the first month of the season, preference is
determined using the previous year’s standings.

If a team claims a player off waivers and has the viable claim as
described above, his current team (the “waiving team”) may choose one of
the following options:

  • arrange a trade with the claiming team for that player within two
    business days of the claim; or
  • rescind the request and keep the player on its major league roster,
    effectively canceling the waiver; or
  • do nothing and allow the claiming team to (1) assume the player’s
    existing contract, (2) pay the waiving team a waiver fee, and (3) place
    the player on its active major league roster.

If a player is claimed and the waiving team exercises its rescission
option, the waiving team may not use the option again for that player in
that season. If no team claims a player from waivers in three business
days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a
minor league team, traded, or released outright.

The waiver “wire” is a secret within the personnel of the Major
League Baseball clubs; no announcement of a waiver is made until a
transaction actually occurs. Many players are often quietly waived
during the August “waiver-required” trading period to gauge trade
interest in a particular player. Usually, when the player is claimed,
the waiving team will rescind the waiver to avoid losing the player
unless a trade can be worked out with the claiming team.

The Phillies have made Waiver Moves over the past few years….

They got Jaime Moyer and cash from the Seattle Mariners for Andrew
Baldwin and Andrew Barb on Aug. 19, 2006.

I’m not sure if this helps anybody, but I hope so. 

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